hey everybody :) happy snow day for anyone else in denver...what a fun drive in this morning!
i am working on a project and wondering if anyone out there is a guru on the borg's book "the bible, god's word or man's?
" that is if they haven't replaced it yet.
One guru coming up...
Alan Feuerbacher
The Watchtower Society's complete lack of comprehension of science, while pretending the opposite, was one of the main things that clued me in as to their true nature. This is a commentary on the Watchtower Society's 1989 book The Bible: God's Word or Man's?, Chapter 8: "Science: Has It Proved the Bible Wrong?"
-- http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/science-has-it-proved-bible-wrong.html
~Merry
oahspe, a new bible in the words of jehovih.
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/oahspe3/boj.html.
Good point, Leo! Thanks.
~Merry
i know "bttt" means "bump to the top", and is done on threads that people think are good, and.
need help from slipping into oblivion... right?.
what i don't get is that the msgs i see are ordered by simply the date of posting, so how does.
Unbelievable! You people can make any* thread fun.
*some exceptions may apply
~Merry
oahspe, a new bible in the words of jehovih.
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/oahspe3/boj.html.
Thanks, blueviceroy! Likewise, I'm sure
Following is pretty much what my mother told me about the Book of Mormon (she studied Mormonism when she was young so that she could argue religion with her Mormon boyfriend):
Although the Mormon Church denies it, The Book of Mormon actually was plagiarized from an unpublished novel, i.e., a fictional work, titled Manuscript Found, written by a retired Congregational (Protestant) minister named Solomon Spalding, who died in 1816. Large parts are also plagiarized from the King James Version of the Bible. http://www.godonthe.net/evidence/mormon.htm
But apparently there are no known copies of Spaulding's "Manuscript Found." So it's a bit hard to prove. But the story my mother was familiar with, as I remember it, is told here: http://solomonspalding.com/Lib/hob1946a.htm
So I am curious about the claim that it was a product of automatic writing.
As to Oahspe, when I read the title of this thread, I was expecting to see a distillation of all the words in the Old Testament that were purported to have been spoken by YHWH, not a product 19th century automatic writing. But this has lead to a mildly interesting exploration of the phenomena within that time period, and the reminder that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle was a spiritualist (something I had forgotten).
~Merry
oahspe, a new bible in the words of jehovih.
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/oahspe3/boj.html.
Joseph Smith's Book of Mormon is a classic example of automatic writing.
Really? Interesting. I had always heard that he had plagarized it from someone else's unpublished novel.
LOL @ nvr! =
~Merry
the photo-drama of creation (1914) in scanned pdf format (117 mb).
info on the book and directions on how to download it below:.
most of the material from the scenario of the photo drama of creation is online in various formats by various bible student groups, but this pdf file consists of scanned images from the original volume as published by the watch tower society.
Thank you Cabasilas, Alpha Omega and Atlantis!
~Merry
oahspe, a new bible in the words of jehovih.
http://www.angelfire.com/in2/oahspe3/boj.html.
Oahspe is a book written in 1880 by an American dentist named John Ballou Newbrough [1828-1891]. He claimed that it was the result of automatic writing, dictated to him by spirits in a trance. http://www.sacred-texts.com/oah/index.htm
~Merry McGoogle
ex witness of 20 years here.
by the grace of god (or something anyway) i managed to get out.
i visited this forum about 5 years ago and noticed the u.n. issue.
How nice that you are here, _Man! Hope you stay for a while.
I like Mouthy's name for you, and some of the others' too, but whatever you want to call yourself/want us to call you is ok by me.
~Merry
you guys this has really freaked me out so much tonight as i was looking though my revelation book climax at hand i was looking to see where we had left off and i usually do this by seeing where i have stopped highlighting in the book.. so i started at pg 156 & 157 of the book so there were a bunch of marks on those two pages their are pics nothing special there.. but on page 159 their is a pic of jesus in the heavens where he is extending his handout to get a piece of paper and that's where i notice on the hand that were the wrinkles are supposed to be there is a face like a fetusnow i mean anybody can tell you that is a face of a baby.
i don't know why a baby on jesus hand or what it suppose to mean.
i guess it really shows how the control tower (watchtower) make me a jw feel really shitty.
That is NOT a normal looking hand.
~Merry
i'm hoping someone can clear this up for me.
i was recently released from an inpatient behavioral health unit.
i was wondering jw's stance on mental disorders and tratment.
Hello and welcome.
Here is a quote from a JW magazine at their official website:
Some have made considerable improvement by using the suggestions that have been discussed. There are cases where additional help may be necessary. Some, for example, have been helped by medication.# Others have sought the help of a mental-health expert. Awake! does not recommend or endorse any particular kind of treatment. Whether a Christian pursues such treatment is a personal decision. He should be careful, however, that any treatment he receives does not conflict with Bible principles. http://www.watchtower.org/e/19980722/article_03.htm
All I know is, it can be very confusing being a Witness, especially growing up as one. The things they say, as here, can sound very balanced and reasonable and yet, might not fully reveal what one has learned as a JW in a controlling JW environs for years.
As a JW, I would have interpreted this article, according to everything else I had read and learned and experienced as a JW, to be saying that even though this is a "personal decision" and medication and expert help might be beneficial, they are not really worth the risk to your good standing with God, since mental health professionals are usually not JWs and might advocate something that violates what the Governing Body of JWs tells you are the Bible's principles. So it is better just to pray and go door to door and read the Bible via their "Bible-based" publications more, and follow some of their simple recommendations. I would have thought that since the Awake! does not endorse any particular kind of treatment then I had better not seek out any beyond what they themselves offer.
That is how I would have read it. Others might read it differently, according to their own experience and understanding. I remember unofficial verbal warnings and anecdotes in the congregation I attended, that made me feel expert mental health assistance was, more often than not, dangerous to true Christians (i.e. JWs). It was not forbidden, that I recall, and yet was discouraged. But when I mentioned this to my JW mother some years later, she didn't remember it that way and didn't really seem to know what I was talking about.
~Merry
